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« Reply #240 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 11:51pm »

First of all sorry for writing the wrong name in my previous post. Each time I wrote Michael but I meant Jannik. I changed it.

@ Just like you Zoe, I saw both versions of the two movies you mentioned.
'Point of no return' was far better then the French 'La Femme Nikita'. But I disagree for the other movie. 'La Cage aux Folles' had an excellent screenplay and superb actors. In 1980 it received four Oscar nominations for Best Writing, Best Costume Design, Best Director and Best Screenplay based on Material from another Medium (whatever that means). It won the Cˇsar Awards in France, the David di Donatello Awards in Italy ('Days of Heaven' with actor Richard Gere was a very close second best there). It won also the Golden Globes, and the National Board of Review, USA... both for Best Foreign language Film.
So you see...this movie wouldn't have won all these awards and nominations if it wasn't good. Don't get me wrong... I liked the American version also. Robin Williams is a fine actor.

@ Jackbourassa
After seeing the original Danish movie, I wasn't sure that Jake had the leading part. Thanks for explaining.

@ Evie
You wrote: "I am starting to feel uneasy about Jake's career in the sense that he may not be getting the roles he should have."
Well, I believe he had the right roles so far.

Wasn't he brilliant in Zodiac? Sure.. but the movie was way too long.

He also acted splendidly in Rendition. Alas before this film was released in movie theatres, another movie with the same subject and almost the same title came out in the UK and abroad. Two of the same controversial stories, is one too much.

He may have made a mistake by accepting the role in Nailed. Dunno.. we simply have to wait and see, and hope for the best. I'm not particularly happy with this project but like Zoe said..." let's have faith in this movie". And I add "with what Jake does".

And yes Brothers is a remake, but Jake is Jake. He plays every character as if it was himself. So that could be OK too. Even if Tobey's part would be more important... an Oscar for Best Supporting Role is also cool.

I"m almost certain Jakey doesn't decide alone in which movies he will play. He has his family and friends (in the business) to advise him. And now he has also Reese. I think he really thought it over very well before accepting the role in Prince Of Persia'. In my opinion, it's a good choice. Yeah it's risky all right. But at the same time it will be very special, just like the 'Lord Of the Ring' trilogy was and still is. Disney isn't a small company. They will do everything possible to make PoP a success. The cast is already very impressive.

Sorry for the long post guys! If it's about Jake I cannot stop.
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Re: BROTHERS (2008)
« Reply #241 on: Jun 13th, 2008, 5:37pm »

on Jun 12th, 2008, 11:51pm, Sheilah wrote:
First of all sorry for writing the wrong name in my previous post. Each time I wrote Michael but I meant Jannik. I changed it.

@ Just like you Zoe, I saw both versions of the two movies you mentioned.
'Point of no return' was far better then the French 'La Femme Nikita'. But I disagree for the other movie. 'La Cage aux Folles' had an excellent screenplay and superb actors. In 1980 it received four Oscar nominations for Best Writing, Best Costume Design, Best Director and Best Screenplay based on Material from another Medium (whatever that means). It won the Cˇsar Awards in France, the David di Donatello Awards in Italy ('Days of Heaven' with actor Richard Gere was a very close second best there). It won also the Golden Globes, and the National Board of Review, USA... both for Best Foreign language Film.
So you see...this movie wouldn't have won all these awards and nominations if it wasn't good. Don't get me wrong... I liked the American version also. Robin Williams is a fine actor.

@ Jackbourassa
After seeing the original Danish movie, I wasn't sure that Jake had the leading part. Thanks for explaining.

@ Evie
You wrote: "I am starting to feel uneasy about Jake's career in the sense that he may not be getting the roles he should have."
Well, I believe he had the right roles so far.

Wasn't he brilliant in Zodiac? Sure.. but the movie was way too long.

He also acted splendidly in Rendition. Alas before this film was released in movie theatres, another movie with the same subject and almost the same title came out in the UK and abroad. Two of the same controversial stories, is one too much.

He may have made a mistake by accepting the role in Nailed. Dunno.. we simply have to wait and see, and hope for the best. I'm not particularly happy with this project but like Zoe said..." let's have faith in this movie". And I add "with what Jake does".

And yes Brothers is a remake, but Jake is Jake. He plays every character as if it was himself. So that could be OK too. Even if Tobey's part would be more important... an Oscar for Best Supporting Role is also cool.

I"m almost certain Jakey doesn't decide alone in which movies he will play. He has his family and friends (in the business) to advise him. And now he has also Reese. I think he really thought it over very well before accepting the role in Prince Of Persia'. In my opinion, it's a good choice. Yeah it's risky all right. But at the same time it will be very special, just like the 'Lord Of the Ring' trilogy was and still is. Disney isn't a small company. They will do everything possible to make PoP a success. The cast is already very impressive.

Sorry for the long post guys! If it's about Jake I cannot stop.


Sheilah,

What I was trying to say is that Jake may not be getting offers for the roles that are best for him. Thus he chooses from among those he does get. (All in all, the PoP deal has to be considered a feather in his cap, a real coup.) He was wonderful in Zodiac and in Rendition, as he has been in every other film from October Sky onward; I have no problem with his work in those two most recent films, but rather with the films themselves.

Jake will always be fantastic in whatever he does--inventive, intelligent, deeply committed to the character, highly original in his understanding and portrayal--whether the role/film is dramatic or funny or outright silly. I have mixed feelings about Nailed not because of Jake, but because the production seems to be jinxed, and with all the stops and starts, maybe the quality of the film will suffer.
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« Reply #242 on: Jun 14th, 2008, 2:08pm »

After reading the script and the comments on the original film (which I have not seen but it has gotten ecellent reviews) to me it looks like this film will be pretty much the same. Although the story now takes place in a small american town and involves a "normal" american family.

Everyone who expects a love triangle or two brothers fighting for a woman will be disappointed. I for one am happy with this - I don´t want a typical Hollywood film.

IMO the three main roles have nearly equal screen time - perhaps Natalie a little less than the two guys.

"Actually all the awards prediction sites have Jake as leading and Tobey as supporting.


Could you please tell us which sides you mean? Because on the awards side that I am reading nobody is even mentioning this film nor the actors.

An independent movie needs some support - I really hope they will show this film at some important film festivals to create some (hopefully) good buzz.
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« Reply #243 on: Jun 14th, 2008, 8:10pm »

i think natalie and jake are leading because the main focus of the story focus around both of them dealing with the death of tobey's character. it doesn't say on the imdb.com which person is leading but the list goes natalie,jake and tobey. it will probably change once the movie comes out. i m excitied to kno the characters name.
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« Reply #244 on: Jun 15th, 2008, 09:07am »

If the script is correct and they have not changed it it will be

Jake - Tommy (Thomas) Cahill
Tobey - Sam Cahill
Natalie - Grace Cahill

During the scenes where Sam is probably dead they alternate between the family dealing with Sams "death" and him being a prisoner of the Taliban and what happens there.

IMO Tommy is a great opportunity for Jake - I really hope he will be able to disappear in this character and we will see him in another challenging role.


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« Reply #245 on: Jun 15th, 2008, 11:00am »

"BROTHERS TEST SCREENING!!!!!

Ok, I went into work and found out that Yesterday Thurs. thay had a test screening of Nats new film BROTHERS. I got a call from work from coworkers cause they know Im a die hard Nat fan and said hey they have a privite early test screening of Nats New film Brothers.

I was fraking out cause it's was shown at the cinema thats 5 min. away from my house and directly across the street from my work at fedexkinkos. It's a station casino. I live in vegas.

I am at work now and came in and the guys who had the test screening came in and had ALL of the test cards from peoples reaction to the film I had to make 2 copies. On top siad BROTHERS and on it was How was the film?, How was Nat's performance, ect.

I went through all of them ( Hey i want to know) Alot said Nats performance was excallant. same goes for Toby and Jake.
Now the man picked them up and the cards are being shiped to LA.

I wish I had a chance to see the film. Well i saw/own the Original so i can wait but I want to see a new film from Nat.

I have the flyer i will scan and post it so dazza can put it up."

http://natalieportman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1280

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« Reply #246 on: Jun 15th, 2008, 1:18pm »

on Jun 15th, 2008, 09:07am, Carla50 wrote:
If the script is correct and they have not changed it it will be

Jake - Tommy (Thomas) Cahill
Tobey - Sam Cahill
Natalie - Grace Cahill

During the scenes where Sam is probably dead they alternate between the family dealing with Sams "death" and him being a prisoner of the Taliban and what happens there.

IMO Tommy is a great opportunity for Jake - I really hope he will be able to disappear in this character and we will see him in another challenging role.



you have a the script from the movie? i m so jealous...lol
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Re: BROTHERS (2008)
« Reply #247 on: Jun 15th, 2008, 2:37pm »

After being luke-warm about this film (which I will always associate with Heath's death) I am beginning to warm to it and look forward to seeing Moody Jake on the big screen.

Jake's films have sparked my interest to seek out other movies associated with directors, other actors, cinematographers etc that have worked with Jake. I'm sure his choices are story driven, then character driven. It will be interesting to see how they give this story a comtemporary modern twist. I especially look forward to the DVD.
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« Reply #248 on: Jun 15th, 2008, 2:44pm »

News from WDW, Brothers screening was excellent:

http://wetdarkandwild.blogspot.com/
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« Reply #249 on: Jun 15th, 2008, 7:45pm »

That's great to hear that it's been getting good reviews. I just wish we didn't have to wait so long to see it.
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« Reply #250 on: Jun 15th, 2008, 8:08pm »

I'm the one that will be disappointed if it's not a love story...I don't like torture scenes!
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« Reply #251 on: Jun 15th, 2008, 8:31pm »

on Jun 13th, 2008, 5:37pm, Evie wrote:
Sheilah,

What I was trying to say is that Jake may not be getting offers for the roles that are best for him. Thus he chooses from among those he does get. (All in all, the PoP deal has to be considered a feather in his cap, a real coup.) He was wonderful in Zodiac and in Rendition, as he has been in every other film from October Sky onward; I have no problem with his work in those two most recent films, but rather with the films themselves.

I do understand what you say here about Jake not getting the right or the best script-offers, and I totally agree. But even if he gets the most interesting scripts... it's never a certainty that these movies will end up as one of the best. It depends on so many things, you know.

on Jun 13th, 2008, 5:37pm, Evie wrote:
Jake will always be fantastic in whatever he does--inventive, intelligent, deeply committed to the character, highly original in his understanding and portrayal--whether the role/film is dramatic or funny or outright silly.

True, true!
Being a real Jake fan, I'm always comparing his work with that of others... and vice versa. Sometimes I'm telling myself he could have been better in this or that particular role, as he is, like you said Evie, totally committed to the characters he plays. And sometimes I think he has still a lot to learn. After all, he's only 27. Playing all these different characters is, I believe, the smartest way to get to the top and be the very best.


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Re: BROTHERS (2008)
« Reply #252 on: Jun 15th, 2008, 8:37pm »

on Jun 15th, 2008, 8:08pm, atalley wrote:
I'm the one that will be disappointed if it's not a love story....

Right, me too! I want to see some action. LOL
Hee-hee! Don't worry, there will be love in the air.

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« Reply #253 on: Jun 16th, 2008, 1:10pm »

LOL! Yee-haaaaaaaaaaa!!
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« Reply #254 on: Jun 30th, 2008, 3:23pm »

Oscar buzz for Jake's "Brothers":

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=55357<br/>
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